Abolish Income Tax, Increase Consumption Tax


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Income tax is a costly system and easily manipulated (by the government to control behaviour as well as by taxpayers). Tax spending with a GST of 20% and eliminate tax on income.

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Submitted by James McKinnon on March 06, 2023 - 12:49 AM

I vehemently support this idea. Not only does it put more money in the pocket of Canadians who need it, a GST of 20% Nationwide closes any loopholes that one of considerable means could take to avoid paying their fair share.

This tax setup would remove an unfair disadvantage keeping people that would otherwise be doing much better, locked in debt and struggling.

Submitted by Jessica Hrycuk on March 05, 2023 - 10:43 PM

It doesn't make sense that lower income Canadians have to struggle pay to pay because they lose 200-300 sometimes more from their pay chèques just to get it back in a lump sum once a year. Not having enough money perpetuates poor money money habits such as spending their income tax return all at once because your not gonna get that amount of cas at once again kind of thing. I feel this part of the population would benefit from just having that extra cash. Also, the extremely wealthy are more likely to be abke to transfer funds into better accounts (just from being able to meet minimun balance requirements) and are able to put their money in places where it can be free of taxation (or atleast at a rate as high as Canada's).

So really it's our shrinking middle class thats careying us in terms of income tax. We could potentially grow the middle class by letting people leep their money. And if that middle class is indeed shrinking we should probably ease up on them. Ease up before they are as hungry as the lower class because those are the people we need for revolution as they they have more power and resources.

Submitted by collin dacosta on March 05, 2023 - 10:27 PM

The Canadian government full of boomers is stifling the life out of young men and women who are just starting to build a life and a family. You old crusty parasites should pay for your own damn pensions and health care! Things are hard enough as it is without these old boomers squeezing the life out of us. The cost of living and income tax here is so damn high here I'm strongly considering just leaving this country and working remote.

Submitted by Tony on March 02, 2023 - 5:49 AM

I am really considering leaving Canada because of the high tax (among many other reasons). The government are thieves and the citizens seem to endorse this. I think every person in Canada that is middle to high class should plan on leaving. There are other places in this world that will value our work, expertise and drive more and let us keep more of our hard earned money.

Submitted by Reynald Méthot on February 28, 2023 - 11:19 PM

I am in favor of the abolishing of the annuel income taxe. But I do think 17% would help, it would not be to much for those who are not making enough money. The riches always find loophole to keep their moneys. Don't forget it is the middle class who keeps the country going.

Thank you

Submitted by Andre Viau on February 24, 2023 - 3:15 PM

I agree with this approach, The idea that my income gets taxed then what you leave us with also gets taxed then if we sell or transfer things like assets or vehicles that are used THAT also gets taxed, what do you actually leave your citizens with at the end. YOU get all our money in taxes, you just are sneaky and spread out how it gets taken from your wallets.

Now the idea is one tax on goods purchased seems like a reasonable way to still get your income to spread to countries infrastructure.

Submitted by mira on February 23, 2023 - 7:14 PM

ABOLISH IT ALL. Taxation is theft. Zero taxes for EVERYTHING. Healthcare should be a PAY IN thing. Same with EI and CPP. Pay in and get it. Otherwise, you do not. Simple. Charge more for immigration fees to gather money. A TRV costs only $100. It should cost more close to $1000 and $5000 for high risk countries. A lot of people pay $20,000 to fake schools or workplaces just to get a spot in Canada. Why not have the gov make that money. And public schools should be abolished.

Submitted by Stephan Paterra on February 17, 2023 - 7:24 PM

This is an excellent idea that gives canadians more provision of where their dollars go

Submitted by Mathieu Morin on February 06, 2023 - 1:21 AM

For years, the belief has been that taxing income is not an effective way to increase the financial stability of the working class. By allowing individuals to keep more of their earnings in each paycheck, they have the ability to decide how they would like to allocate their funds, either by saving or increasing their consumption. This shift in power to the individual gives them the autonomy to make choices that align with their financial goals and priorities. The result of increased consumer spending can lead to a boost in tax revenue as well.

Submitted by Jean Claes on February 02, 2023 - 7:36 PM

I don't think Canada will abolish income tax, because they are too greedy. But they should if they want to save Canada's economy, in the long run it would make a better stronger economy! I live in Northern NB and there is hardly any jobs. Gas is too expensive and there isn't any public transportation it's like living in a third world country! Without the benefits of a low cost of living!

Submitted by Jean Claes on February 02, 2023 - 7:22 PM

Get rid of income tax now before everyone finds a better place like south America where you can still afford to eat!!

Submitted by Jean Claes on February 02, 2023 - 7:18 PM

I can barely eat and pay my bills. Salaries are way too low for the cost of living on a minimum wage salary! In NB Canada. That is why the suicide rate in Canada is the highest in Canada. That's why when I retire I will have to move to another country where I can afford to eat.

Submitted by Derek Gray on January 26, 2023 - 10:33 PM

Half my pay goes to income tax! A tax that wasn’t meant to fund the world war well the war is over the tax should be as well. $55,000 last year amd I work 84 hours a week for my money for you scumbags to take it and give it to some other country or put it up your nose who knows

Submitted by Ryan Grais on January 26, 2023 - 8:17 PM

There's tax on literally everything and the government continues to tax resold items no matter how many times they are sold they do not need to take income tax from us, let alone how many times the government charges tax on imported goods coming into the country, before it even gets to us to purchase 😡

Submitted by KA on January 23, 2023 - 8:40 PM

Income tax should be taken away and consumption tax should be added. This allows people to control the amount of tax they can afford to pay and still live a good life.

Submitted by robert price on January 23, 2023 - 12:47 PM

You want to help Canadians take home more money lower income tax this is out of hand. Jesus were taxed on everything else.

Submitted by Mustang on January 12, 2023 - 2:36 PM

Abolish income tax. Set a fair tax of 20% on all items for everyone.
Exceptions are food and water.

Submitted by B34NS on January 11, 2023 - 9:02 PM

This would change the world for the better. What good has the government done with the millions they have stolen from the hard working citizens?

Submitted by Jake on January 11, 2023 - 8:05 PM

1. Abolish it
2. If you’re not going to abolish it, there should be a cap. People out here working numerous should not be continually taxed.

Submitted by Dylan on January 11, 2023 - 8:00 PM

Abolish income tax. Government just prints money anyways. Let us keep our pay and in turn society will be better off. More money in our pockets means more spending!

Submitted by Kenton penner on January 11, 2023 - 3:58 AM

The entire world is suffering
Can’t even get ahead making 100k a year because you tax the world to death and don’t allow us enough money take home to pay for life. Take away or almost all of income tax, the world will flourish

Submitted by danniel kutz on January 10, 2023 - 10:04 PM

abolish income tax almost 30% of my income goes to federal government instead of going to my kids

Submitted by Bhupinder Sing… on January 06, 2023 - 7:33 PM

Take tax but don't be ridiculous about it. don't take half of the money that I am earning especially when the inflation is high, rent costing me more than ever, food costing me more than ever, plus I have to go to private cliniques as for the last four years I don't have a general physician. I feel I am paying taxes without any representation on top of it I am not able to buy beer as I have to pay 19 percent tax on it and forget about eating outside as you pay taxes + tips it feels like loot. please read about the Magna Carta.

Submitted by Anonymous on January 05, 2023 - 8:11 PM

we get taxed on our pay and then we get taxed again at the end of the year on that same money we earned . one tax only please

Submitted by Chris Wilson on January 05, 2023 - 1:53 PM

Why does the government have the right to tax income as well as tax our spending?
Choose one or the other!

Submitted by Austin on December 21, 2022 - 12:52 AM

with the cost of living at an all time high and Canadian Forces Recruitment at an all time low. If income tax was abolished i think you would have more people wanting to join. Also all the employers in the private sector who can't fill job postings would have an easier time since the tax would be gone. Every day Canadians are paying an extreme price from our Governments spending habits which should be passed on to the people.

Submitted by Cynthia on December 13, 2022 - 12:25 AM

Crippling mortgage rates, staggering rental costs, stagnant wages, soaring inflation - it's time to get rid of income tax on wages, and never mind clawing it back through GST on the necessities of a wage slave's basic life.

Submitted by Dayna on December 11, 2022 - 4:06 PM

I could barely justify the $18,000 annually I pay in income tax if the roads were pristine , if the resources were available, If the infrastructure made sense. As of right now , our roadways are used as a racket for police to make millions off of traffic violations. If you’re wise to the rules, maybe you’ll walk away with a broken ball joint or a bent rim from driving on the neglected roads. There are very little resources available to working class people who fall short. Yet we tax and tax and tax. I’ve come to a point where I can’t afford to live as a single person, if I weren’t taking ample taxes off each cheque that might not be the case. If taxes are to proceed until the day I die, let them at least be LESS. Why do you need 30% ??? Take 5% .. IM TRADING MY LIFE FOR THIS MONEY

Submitted by Tess on February 21, 2023 - 8:33 PM

Yes! Literally 100% this!
It would be ok if we had excellent services and resources for EVERYONE, then the amount could maybe be justified, but when everything is going to hell in a handbasket, our health care is pathetic, the roads and infrastructure aren't maintained, we have millions of people who are homeless and the government doesn't want to build enough homes to bring down housing prices... what are we paying for? Why is my paycheck being stolen to pay for government spending that I didn't agree to or choose. At this rate, no matter how good paying of a job you find you cannot get ahead at all because "earning" more only means the government is taking more, I still only end up taking home a minimum wage after all the taxes get taken from what should be a "livable" wage.
They don't want employers to increase wages because that will supposedly increase inflation but somehow don't consider that without either above inflation wage increases or alternatively income tax decreases or elimination, we are at a point where the majority of people are not able to afford to live... what happens when the majority of the country becomes homeless and broke? 🤷‍♀️ I would think that outcome would not be considered "good governance".

Submitted by Kurt papegnies on December 08, 2022 - 2:12 PM

Personal income tax was supposed to be removed after ww2 why are we still paying it

Submitted by Anonymous on December 21, 2022 - 5:43 PM

Yup, our income tax is easily double our mortgage payment. Yet they can’t keep my kids in school or provide basic medical care. 8 month wait just to see an ENT. Went ti 4 pharmacies to find amoxicillin. Ridiculous.

Submitted by Concerned on December 01, 2022 - 6:04 PM

Stop wasting our tax dollars and giving it to other countries just to look good on TV. Help Canadians first, keep GST low, eliminate federal income tax.

Submitted by Anonymous on November 30, 2022 - 7:59 AM

Taxing our income is frankly unfair. It creates more people within the system that will abuse the programs that our taxes pay for. I’m not saying these programs are not good but people do abuse them. There is money spent in these programs that is frankly insulting wasteful. This is coming from someone who has worked within the system. Abolishing income tax is a solution to this problem.

Submitted by Anonymous on November 27, 2022 - 5:50 PM

Unfortunately raising get/PST would only gouge truly poor people while not affecting wealthier Canadians. Government spending tends to be inflationary. Cutting our purchasing power doesn't change that. Perhaps spend a bit more responsibly and spend on programs that provide actual long term solutions instead of promising us the world but only delivering us a string of bandaid fixes that require more upkeep as the years go by.

Submitted by Ryan on November 26, 2022 - 2:12 AM

Productivity gains have not resulted in wage growth, but higher earnings, because money has been mistaken for wealth. So people work more, and resent taxation, while gains go to asset holders in in financial markets. At the same time, economic activity is maximized incentivizing overconsumption and overproduction exceeding environmental boundaries. So take advantage of automation, and reduce the workweek, while increasing carbon tax and lowering income tax. This results in more employed people, each with more free time, the same wages but with lower income tax. Higher costs of production would lower throughput and increase the quality of goods and services and lengthen their life-cycle. Tax us less, work us less, and give us more for each dollar we spend, and each hour of time we work. A strong economy is not the amount of business profit and government revenue. It is the value of people and nature relative to capital.

Submitted by Income tax is … on November 24, 2022 - 12:26 AM

What could possibly be the justification for paying 23% of my income to taxes and deductions when I have to work to support 3 kids?

Why would one even care to save up a miserable CPP when you could just use a better investment vehicle? Irresponsible people are now in control of my wealth and it is outside of my authority yo say differently.

I won’t see any actual benefits from any of the taxes either, I get a piss poor tax return every year sometimes even owing.

Our friends, family and fellow citizens are being abused and sometimes killed in the streets of our capital cities by the crazy drug addicts and other mentally ill people just roaming around like zombies unchecked.

Government workers are known far and wide to be lazy and slow. Say what you want, but chances are when you honestly look at the situation you are or know a government worker who is lazy, slow and uninterested in what they are doing.

And what the hell has gotten into the government and guns? Release the chip on your shoulders, we get it you are mad that there is gun violence. Use the proper tools available to you, don’t just ban everything you can when you can.

Canada has been built with the use of firearms, stop being so ignorant. We use guns in war, we use guns in trading. We use guns for fun.

Look at the long gun price increase and ammunition shortage now, this all because of uneducated knee jerk reactions that only punish law abiding citizens.

The price of hunting firearms, ammunition and equipment is skyrocketing now, not just the “military style weapons”. Now our hunters, target shooters and reloaders are being screwed over.

So what is the justification for paying 23% on my income in tax? When in reality I am being used and abused by this country.

Are we the stupid ones in the end? I mean we just keep taking it over and over again, no useful calls to action or change.

Just wheels spinning everywhere.

Submitted by Aj on November 20, 2022 - 10:22 PM

Not even worth for me to work more than 10 hours overtime on my pay cheques because the scummy government takes quite a lot away after 90 hours. Make it make sense, the more I work, the more I should save/invest and help grow our economy out of this gross toilet

Submitted by Mike on November 13, 2022 - 11:17 PM

Use Canadian natural resources to bring in money for the overly bloated government, rather than taking it from its citizens. The harder we work the less we get. There's no incentive to work harder when the government just takes it all anyways and then uses it for things we don't vote for or even utilize. NO INCOME TAX!!!